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here is our interview with conchita

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sarnoff

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in the uh galen trial

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do we know did

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new names surface or any of the big

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so to speak certain oh that's what's

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going on right now

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now now galen right after her her

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conviction

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she said

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through her attorney that she no longer

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opposes

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for those for documents to be

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unsealed so now those documents

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can be unsealed those documents being

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virginia du phrase documents

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identifying those eight men

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because they have been under seal for

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quite a while

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they've been under sealed through what

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which case which case oh goodness

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through the civil case remember the the

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2015 civil case when david boyce first

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represented uh

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virginia

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oh suing galen yes

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gotcha and and was that case also

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settled

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so here's boyce right in the middle of

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working on cutting a deal essentially

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with the other side with glenn's side to

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say that these these documents have to

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remain sealed

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yes and i mean that's

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information that she has in her head you

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know i mean she could reveal that at any

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time but pursuant to her deal

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with david boyce representing virginia

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that was supposed to say sealed in some

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yes that's that's very interesting

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because that definitely puts boyce at

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the center of protecting names and in

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particular potentially uh

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bill clinton yes

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so glenn's going to try to use this um

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as a way to negotiate

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um a plea deal

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is that you know she was not offered uh

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jim a plea deal in her

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in but she could now but now she could

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uh you know she um she was convicted i

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i am actually scared uh for her

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because um i would be scared for anyone

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not just

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maxwell

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i'm scared for her having witnessed what

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i did with jeffrey epstein

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uh and having a federal agent tell me

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only days after epstein was arrested in

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2019 that he would not live

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that there were quote towels on the

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and that he would not make it to trial

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that's a quote from an active federal

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agent at the time

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i believe that once again

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even though i have spoken to the

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department of justice

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and i in fact spoke

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previously to um

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attorney general barr

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guillen is also not safe

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and i believe that if this document with

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these eight

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quote powerful men

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that glenn maxwell

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i believe that a couple other names you

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didn't mention but i got some some

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some notes or maybe one of the emails

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you sent us uh jean luc

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brunel

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and he was the um

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modeling scout modeling agent and the

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associate of jeffrey epstein

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back in the 80s and the 90s and jeffrey

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epstein invested a million dollars

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toward his modeling agency c squared it

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has since closed

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and what is he in jail for

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trafficking children because what

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they you know when you have a modeling

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agency there are no regulations which is

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work towards for the last 10 years

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but because modeling agencies are not

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underage child to go to

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i don't know kentucky or

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washington state and tell them there's a

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modeling gig put them on a plane and

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there's there's no bonding there's

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nothing that will prevent that child

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from being kidnapped raped

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brunel used mc square

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to solicit visas for foreign-born

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underage girls to bring them to the

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and the girls that epstein liked

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those girls would meet epstein

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and then they would some of them would

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be taken to his house the townhouse

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others would be taken to a building that

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he and his brother owned

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on e66 and you know the rest

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what do you believe brunel was doing

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this even before epstein oh absolutely

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a terrible reputation if you speak to

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anybody in the fashion world

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um they did a documentary about him in

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in france i mean he actually had to

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perhaps um this is where epstein learned

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well did he get his first uh bad choice

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first taste of underage

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girls through brunel perhaps

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close to that border way before brunel

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ready to invest a million dollars

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remember he invested a million in brunel

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they could bring the underage girls into

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this country legally and officially and

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using mc squared so no i think epstein

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had been doing that way before brunel

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apparently with a one-way ticket

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friends in fact epstein introduced him

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and the reason j.p morgan

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epstein introduced just daily to

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and it was just daley

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and staley went to visit epstein

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multiple times while in prison in palm

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when jp morgan had no choice

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but to close epstein's accounts

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so jeff staley was very close to epstein

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both personally

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of 2021 from barclays bank a bank

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because he was friends with someone who

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went to jail that doesn't make sense

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there there's a lot

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there that hasn't come out yet

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so it could come out he could be one of

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the eight but could come out that he was

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it could yes all that could come out

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back to epstein and what

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jim i find it so difficult to believe

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given the fact that the cameras all went

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biggest most powerful richest mexican

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cartel leader el chapo usman

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and having spoken to many people on the

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make me believe that epstein

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did not commit suicide

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was forced to commit suicide that is a

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well he he had apparently attempted it

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he was then put on suicide watch

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he was arguably prematurely taken off of

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suicide watch correct and then he in

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fact does commit suicide or is killed

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somehow i don't know i just you know

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it's so hard to believe that he would

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have been allowed

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or the opportunity to commit suicide

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considering that he had been on watch

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it would be even harder to believe that

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they could allow someone to somehow

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break into the prison

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get into his cell

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and kill him and leave and yes a couple

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cameras are off but not every camera in

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the prison is off and there's no trace

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left behind and no evidence no

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fingerprints no nothing

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everything you're saying is absolutely

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true and and logical and makes sense

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uh but you know there are killings

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inside the prison too it didn't have to

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be somebody from the outside it could

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have been somebody from the inside

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thank you again to our guest conchita

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sarnoff you can check out her book

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trafficking wherever you buy books thank

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you to our producer michael parker thank

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